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Duke Blue Devils
Seed: 4
Record: 27-8
Conference: ACC
vs.
NC State Wolfpacl
Seed: 11
Record: 25-14
Conference: ACC
Date: Sunday, March 31
Time: 5:05pm Eastern
Region: South
Location: Dallas, TX
Channel: CBS
Well, let's hear it for the ACC. Just like in 2022, after a shitty regular season they have three teams advancing to the Elite Eight, and they'll have at least one team in the Final Four.
Duke NC State
Power Ratings
Strength: #9 Strength: #52
Median: #6 Median: #69
Markov: #8 Markov: #26
Pomeroy: #5 Pomeroy: #49
Offense: #7 Offense: #43
Defense: #13 Defense: #57
BPI: #7 BPI: #44
LRMC: #12 LRMC: #50
Other Measures:
Tempo (Offense): #175 Tempo (Offense): #116
Consistency: #203 Consistency: #57
2nd half season: #7 2nd half season: #43
Last 6: #5 Last 6: #13
It's sort of amazing how little NC State has improved in the power rating metrics after making the Elite Eight. They're gone up from #58 to #52 in Strength, from #53 to #49 in Pomeroy, and #48 to #44 in BPI. LRMC doesn't update so they are still #57. The only metric here that had them looking good at all is my Markov Chain rating, where they were #35 on Selection Sunday and are now nearing the top 25. Normally an overachieving team like this moves up a lot—especially in Pomeroy, where recent play is weighted pretty heavy. Their Offense has actually dipped from #42 to #43, while their Defense went from #75 to #57. So we can gather from this that the Wolf Pack's latest surge—starting in the 2nd game of the ACC tournament—is from improved defensive play.
And they'll need it to deal with Duke's #7 offense. Meanwhile if we assume their offense hasn't improved, then we really have the #43 offense vs. the #13 defense, not a good sign for the Wolfpack.
- Wins vs. tournament teams (8): =(9)Michigan St.+9, =(3)Baylor+8, (6)Clemson+1, (10)Virginia+25, @(11)N.C. State+15, =(13)Vermont+17, =(12)James Madison+38, =(1)Houston+3
- Wins vs. Sweet Sixteen (3): (6)Clemson+1, @(11)N.C. State+15, =(1)Houston+3
- Losses to tournament teams (4): (2)Arizona-5, @(1)North Carolina-9, (1)North Carolina-5, =(11)N.C. State-5
- Other losses (4): @Arkansas-5, @Georgia Tech-4, Pittsburgh-4, @Wake Forest-4
Overview: Like any Duke season expectations start high, and the Blue Devils play good teams and expectations are reset. Losing to Arizona at home was a wakeup call, but beating Michigan State helped assuage worries. Losing to Arkansas wasn't considered such an awful thing at the time, but losing to Georgia Tech for a 5-3 start sounded alarms. The Blue Devils won their next 8 games (including a win over 3-seed Baylor) going 19-5 the rest of the way. They lost twice to 1-seed North Carolina however, which showed there limitations, which were again exposed by the loss to NC State in the ACC tournament.
Duke has five players in double figures led by 7-0 Center Kyle Filipowski at 17.1; he adds 8.2 rebounds per game. Surprisingly against a short Vermont team in 37 minutes he managed just 3 points on 0-1 shooting; Mark Mitchell and Jared McCain picked up the slack with 15 each. Duke played incredibly in the 93-55 blowout of James Madison, with Jared McCain pouring in 30 points on 8 of 11 threes. Filipowski scored 16 against Houston in the slow-paced, 54-51 win.
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- Wins vs. tournament teams (8): (10)Virginia+16, @(6)Clemson+1, =(4)Duke+5, =(10)Virginia+OT, =(1)North Carolina+8, =(6)Texas Tech+13, =(14)Oakland+OT, =(2)Marquette+9
- Wins vs. Sweet Sixteen (4): @(6)Clemson+1, =(4)Duke+5, =(1)North Carolina+8, =(2)Marquette+9
- Losses to tournament teams (6): =(6)BYU-9, =(2)Tennessee-9, (1)North Carolina-13, @(10)Virginia-OT, @(1)North Carolina-9, (4)Duke-15
- Other losses (8): @Mississippi-20, Virginia Tech-6, @Syracuse-12, Pittsburgh-3, @Wake Forest-4, Syracuse-4, @Florida St.-7, @Pittsburgh-8
Overview: NC State was a good team all year—good, not great, and not really threatening to most teams. They played a really easy non-conference schedule and lost to all the decent teams they faced (BYU, Ole Miss, Tennessee). They picked up early ACC wins over B.C. and Virginia, though, so in conference play they looked like a potential thorn. For the most part they continued to lose to good teams, culminating in a 4-game skid at the end that destroyed any hope they had of an at-large bid. So instead, they suddenly became a great team and beat Louisville, Syracuse, 4-seed Duke, 10-seed Virginia, and 1-seed North Carolina in a five day span. It's not quite like UConn of 2009 (who won 5 straight to win the Big East, beating a 6-seed, 1-seed, 3-seed, and 4-seed along the way) but it's pretty close. So while we don't expect a national title out of the Wolfpack, history suggests there could be more good things to come. NC State a win over each of the other Sweet Sixteen ACC teams.
DJ Horne leads four starters in double figures for the 'Pack, but against Texas Tech it was reserve Ben Middlebrooks leading with 21 points; he made 6 of 8 shots and 9 of 10 free throws. In the 79-73 overtime thriller vs. Oakland it was big man DJ Burns leading the way with 24 on 9 of 12 shooting. Horne finally led vs. Marquette with 19.
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Game Analysis: What makes a team do what NC State is doing? They've played 39 games, and their five best performances are in their last seven games. That defies the odds, to say the least. There wasn't any warning that this was going to happen, at all. For the NCAA tournament, there was at least the warning provided by their ACC tournament performance, where they won five games in five days, but that five game run was completely unexpected. Basically they came out of nowhere.
By my numbers NC State is playing about 2 points better on offense and around 8.5 points better on defense than they were before their ACC tournament run. Duke would have been favored to win about 80.5 to 70 at that time, and the difference in play by NC State almost completely closes that gap. And of course, one of those games was a 74-69 win over Duke!
Let's look at the matchup and compare it to that last game, which we can assume is the "new" NC State. All the stats we're comparing are full-season stats of course, but let's keep in mind the big improvement on defense.
Duke shoots the ball very well and NC State's defensive stats are pretty poor, allowing nearly 50% on 2s and over 33% on threes. Rebounding edge goes to Duke, too, with only a vulnerability to blocked shots keeping their offense grounded.
NC State doesn't shoot well nor do they rebound well, so Duke has an edge here too. The Wolfpack don't turn the ball over or get their shots blocked, but they don't get to the line a lot.
Based on the full-season stats, it's very easy to see how this team lost 14 games, as they don't do a lot well on either side of the court. But in the last meeting between these teams, they made just a couple extra 3s and that was the difference on offense. Normally they might make 5 of 16, instead they made 7 of 16. They didn't rebound any differently on offense or defense, and Duke shot around expectation on 2-pointers (51%) but only made 5 of 20 threes. Duke didn't get to the foul line as often as expected, but NC State's edge there was mitigated by the Wolfpack missing 9 of 20. Basically the difference was in 3-point shooting: Duke made 2 fewer than expected while NC State made 2 more than expected, and that 12 point swing took the game from Duke by 8 to NC State by 4.
So that doesn't help us much. Since NC State's improvement has been mostly on defense, is it just the opponent not making their threes? Syracuse shot 31.6%, Duke 25%, Virginia 32.1%, UNC 27%, Texas Tech 23%, Oakland 34%, Marquette 13%. Only twice did a team top 32% on threes and both of those games went into overtime before NC State won. It really looks like better three-point defense has been the key to their success, even though three-point defense is a notoriously flakey stat and usually just depends on the luck of the shooting team.
But it does look like Duke would have won the last game with better three-point shooting, and that's what they'll need to do to win. Has NC State really discovered the key to guarding the 3-point shot?
Vegas Line:
Duke by 6 1/2
Power rating: spread
Duke by 9.2
Game-comparisons: % Chance to win
Duke: 75.1%
NC State: 24.9%
Duke is a much slimmer favored with Vegas than with the Strength power rating, which uses full-season stats. Using just the teams' last seven games (NC State's "surge"), our line decreases to 6.7 points, very close to Vegas' numbers.
From what I can tell, this is the first time EVER that a 4-seed has played an 11-seed. 11-seeds have only made it this far 9 times, and they've played a 1-seed 8 times and a 9-seed once. They're 4-4 vs. the 1-seeds and 1-0 vs. the 9-seeds, so in all an 11-seed at the Elite Eight does pretty damn well at 55.6%.
Bottom line: NC State is playing a lot better lately, a lot. But so is Duke, and that little edge is all they need to win a close one. NC State has won two overtime games but will their luck finally run out?
Final prediction: Duke 81, NC State 79 OT
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